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OpenBaba Harare Criticises Shadaya's Views On Virginity, Lobola
2 years agoTue, 20 Sep 2022 07:03:10 GMT
Jiti musician Baba Harare, whose real name is Braveman Chizvino, has criticised Shadaya for what he considers his extreme views on women.
Posting on Twitter, Shadaya Knight said women should value their virginity and suggested that men should not pay roora / lobola (bride price) when they marry girls and women who are no longer virgins.
Baba Harare argued that the responsibility was also on men to protect the purity of young women.
Speaking during an interview with H-Metro, Baba Harare said Shadaya’s views only serve to further fuel division between men and women. He said:
Shadaya’s views are polarising. There are some who will support his controversial views and there are some that will loathe him.
Normally, I applaud him for starting conversations, but some of his views on women are problematic and can actually start a hate campaign.
A society’s evolution is measured by the way it treats and values its women.
Women are the backbone of our society. They represent life, order and unconditional love.
What did Shadaya say?
Shadaya, whose posts on social media are controversial, has angered some women who consider his views extremely patriarchal. He wrote on Twitter:
For an African man, the moment you decide to pay lobola for a wvman you didn’t devirgin, that signifies the defeat of your manhood.
Lobola is a token of appreciation, so what exactly are you appreciating here, that other men didn’t see fit to appreciate?
Lobola is our culture, imagine denigrating our culture to celebrate a cultural delinquent. In our culture, virg!nity is of paramount importance.
But here you’re celebrating the opposite, instead of shaming it, your ancestors will be ashamed.
What a disgrace to your lineage And with your woke-ism you’ll defend your stup!dity saying “it’s not just about sex” well you should know the previous men got also those other qualities for free.
She cooked, washed, and cleaned for him. Nywe nywe it’s about building a family, well, she also gave him a kid(s) If there’s none, she probably has damaged her womb on contraceptives, family planning pills, jadel, morning after pills, heck even once or twice, she abort3d.
Her womb is a mess, loaded with more chemicals than a laboratory. If this was in football, what you’re doing is no different from breaking the bank for an old washed-up has been player, instead of getting that player on a free transfer.
How do you even look at yourself, aren’t you asham3d of yourself/ You have basically admitted that the men who had her before you are superior to you, what they couldn’t commit to, only you can.
Settling for another man’s l3ftovers. Have some shame, what a disgrace. Learn or perish!!!
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Mickey Vee · 2 years ago
a girl should value her self just have self respect usanyadzise clan 🤣
Queen · 2 years ago
Aaah guys I was tolerating you now , I want you to know that not all girls want to lose their virginity because it's her priority after all. In some extent other girls are abused ****ually and forcibly. Other girls lose their virginity while they are children because of watching ****ography while trying to do what they saw. Some do it to earn a lliving not all girls are like that. when u talk about virginity mind your tongue coz both are at fault and boys learn to mind ur ****ing pipes because it's your fault coz u are the ones responsible for the removing of virginity. Boys u also have to know that hormones are the ones which makes somebody likes **** it's natural
Queen · 2 years ago
Aaah guys I was tolerating you now , I want you to know that not all girls want to lose their virginity because it's her priority after all. In some extent other girls are abused ****ually and forcibly. Other girls lose their virginity while they are children because of watching ****ography while trying to do what they saw. Some do it to earn a lliving not all girls are like that. when u talk about virginity mind your tongue coz both are at fault and boys learn to mind ur ****ing pipes because it's your fault coz u are the ones responsible for the removing of virginity. Boys u also have to know that hormones are the ones which makes somebody likes **** it's natural
G Wagon · 2 years ago
Girls munhu asina kubvisa cent kumba kwenyu usamupe makumbo. Zvinozokunetsa mangwana. Do you know kuti ndogona kungohura murume and mkadzi you ask why muchidaro ndokuudza kuti ndiri kutsvaga mhandara yekuvhura hanzi dzonaka. Marriages are breaking every day because of this virginity thing. GIRLS DZIDZAI KUVHARA MAKUMBO
Chelsea fc · 2 years ago
😌🤐
Chabaya · 2 years ago
Isu vamwe takarora ma virgin zero stress kana azohurawo ndozvozvo ...
JMP · 2 years ago
Ãzvîkø izvivañõpëñgãå
Bounty Hunter · 2 years ago
Pasi nekuroora ma**** munhu roora mhandara yako bhoo. Kana ukaroora **** rako zvichakudya moyo kusvika murufu siyanai nemvandara idzo
Lenah Milanzi · 2 years ago
saka munoreva here kt mese imi muri mavirgin pamuri varume. ivo vasikana ivavo vakazvibvisa vega virginity hre. both men n women vazhinji hamusisiri brand new makavhurwa kare
Mdara Odza · 2 years ago
As long as a man is paying loyola, he has every right to make it a requirement that his bride be a virgin, even if it means he has slept with women before. The money he pay gives him the power to do so
El Zorro Dorado · 2 years ago
Haa gentlemen,risiri virgin racho rinenge ramboboorwa naan in the first place. Lets not be childish handiti ka,imi ndimi nyakutumbura nekumitisa zvese ka 1 and vazhinji venyu mune matoita rape fut mwana wevanhu asingadi mozoti nywe nywe toda virgin,mat*zvi enyu
😂😂😂 · 2 years ago
Haaaa hanzvadzi marwadziwa kkkk asi muri broadway kani kkkk
Jojina · 2 years ago
Hmmm vasikana wee ndinovimba madzidza chokwadi. Musazviidze magamba nekufamba muchivhura makumbo pesese. I hope murikuvanzwa vakomana nevarume. Kana voda ku settler avabati zvemvana. Musashandiswe ndapota. Remekedzai goride iro ririmukati. Kwete kungorimwaya oese pese. At the end you will be the loosers.
Fireman · 2 years ago
HAA MUSADARO. NDANGA NDIINE 3 DAYS NDICHIPA COLD SHOULDER KUNE IMWE MVANDARA. THEN THIS COMES. ANSWERS FROM THE CYBERNETIC HEAVENS KKKK.
PAMBERI NEMA VIRGIN!!
Virgins only · 2 years ago
Pasi ne mvana,
Chasura · 2 years ago
Apa pataurwa dama... Fact yataura Shadaya .. Baba Harare hapana zvozikanwa
G boy · 2 years ago
ukaona girlfriend or wife yako ichimaka @Shadaya chibva waziva kuti zvakaendwa. Don't argue with me i don't have time for you
Tupac · 2 years ago
Pamberi nekuroora mavirgin as long as usiri virgin uchato chitiwa nemurume mumba please vasikana chengetedzai humhandara. Ipai munhu abvisa something kumba kwenyu kwete kungopa munhu wese wese
Professor · 2 years ago
Ini semaonero angu musikana anofanira kuroorwa Ari vigirn nekuti mubhaibheri shoko raMwari mune verse ino taura pamusoro pekuroora inoti kana ma****orana hamuchafanire kurambana asi kana marambana hapana anozoroora kana kuroorwa nekuti kana ukaita saizvozo urikuita upombwe saka panyaya ye***** ndiyo yakabata marriage saka kana ukaita zvebonde usati waroorwa kashoma kuzororwa nemudiwa wako anogona kukuramba wozoroorwa nemumwe unenge wakuita upombwe uye pamaten commandements paneinoti you shall not commit adultery uye kana iye anege akorora kana kuroorwa ndinofunga kuti Ari kutopombawo saka vasikana ndavasabvume kunyengerwa nevakomana uye vakamana ndava dzidze kuzvibatawo kunyaya dzeb**** kana vasati varoora kuti zvi zvifambe zvakanaka nekuti zvino sembura kurara nemukadzi akamborarwa nemumwe murume kana murume akamborarwa nemumwe mukadzi
Tman · 2 years ago
Kungopedza kadiscussion kenyu aka. Tinokutendayi anababa vanokara virginity kunge mari.. Muchanyurira virginity iyoyo uye munoita kuti isu vanotengesa mapills ekudzora kuzasi or ekudzosera humhandara afambe... Tichavatengesera ose mareturn soldiers muchapfidza...nemhandara zhinji dzatichaku gadzirirayi
From Chikurubi · 2 years ago
Mukawana nguva tererai 96.0 FM. Varikutotaura nezvazvo. But varikuti you can still marry a non virgin but pane mari isingabviswe. I am not advocating for it but we marry under different circumstances. Vamwe vanotizirwa, vamwe vanosiirwa munhu
N · 2 years ago
Yes men shouldn't pay lobola to a none virgin sipuru, but that doesn't mean if she opens her legs I wont hit it____________
Sabhuku · 2 years ago
Someone give Shadhaya a Benz, wataura banga mukomana uyu! Marry a borehole at your own peril. Haisingori nyaya ye gomba chete, inyayawo inozokonzereswa nehunhu hwe gomba. Unowira mu gomba rizere marara mafia rakarasira masiriri aro imomo iwe teki-teki hawuwone watozviruza. Learn or perish
Mutengi · 2 years ago
Totenda Baba Harare vaita kuti tinzwewo mashoko aShadaya ane udzamu
Citizen raPep naChamisa · 2 years ago
Ukaona urimurume uchifarirwa nevakadzi sterek ziva kuty wakapusa and unobvuma kuitiswa just for mahugs kubva kumabby
Ukaona wakawengwa saShadaya ziva kuty une chimuty ,Vakadzi havafarire munhu akangwara kuvapfuura period
Registered Voter Voting for CCC · 2 years ago
Nhai Citizen rep munhu akafarirwa nemababie abva apusa futi. Pane vanofarirwa naturally vasingabude mari wani?
Citizen raPep naChamisa · 2 years ago
@Registered voter Ukuona chii
Kazhinji kacho
Look at Boss G and Mudiwa Hood
Mudiwa anogara achidhiswa coz he doesn’t usually spend money on slay queens😂😂
There are exceptions but usually ana Besty vasingagone kana kubata Ga** zvaro ndovanowanzofarirwa
Registered Voter Voting for CCC · 2 years ago
This has been the most eye opening conversation ever. Conversation of the year contender 90 comments and going. Vasikana ngavazvichengetedze anhu wee
. · 2 years ago
Kasi virginity yacho inodyiwa here... dzimha** dzevanhu....
Tman · 2 years ago
Shadhaya wacho has slept with more than 2 women and that's a known fact. Iwewe murume how many women do admire muroad, how many **** stars did you admire, you have done so many with just your eyes.at least 60% of Women in colleges and universities have sharp minds and have known so many d*cks. Those with poor intellect or **** are still virgin until they become another man's prey. In our days we do not value virginity because it does feed my kids, it does go to work, it does run businesses, marriage is about who can bring something to the tables might it be ideas, 50/50. Women have the right to do what they want with their bodies so as man. Have you ever seen a virgin business woman(no) but at the end of the day akapfura neparoad ndiwe unoti dayi arimukadzi wangu.....virginity is a thing of the Past..
Citizen raPep naChamisa · 2 years ago
Ukuona chii iwewe
Bhoo zvinyepere uchity virginity haina basa😂😂
Roora mughodhi wega
Uchitopihwa kiss nemunhu aidya **** dzemadhara ese muZimbabwe
Ndimi type inopusiswa nemabby muchinyemwererwa kunzi besty muri lovely
Anonymous · 2 years ago
Uyu mubabie uyu gara neburi rako iroro
· 2 years ago
varume vakupusa zvokuti,ndosaka muchizopfekerwa mushonga kuzasi nekuti munoda mavirgin.kuchemera zvamusingazive munokuvarira izvozvo
Tanaka Marizani · 2 years ago
haa ndaguta be comment section pindula ma sports
N · 2 years ago
Give Shadaya sando zdake 🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨
Miss BitterLeaf · 2 years ago
saka mukomana ndiye asimgasari mema demon here paanorara nevasikana ,tibvire apooo...
virginity favors men chete chete, n virginity yemukomana also matters the same as yevasikana, kunoda kutsikirira the woman gender uko, mvana ndidzo dzamuri kuzoroora henyu zveeee, vane ma milleage iwawo uchida usingade...
its not like virginity ycho tetaibvisa ne mombe zve,
Anonymous · 2 years ago
Kkkkkkkkkk hasha dzako idzi ndiwe unenge ukurehwa naShadaya kkkkkkk .
Citizen raPep naChamisa · 2 years ago
Ehe zve,it’s a two way street ndosaka ndaty virgin boys want virgin women,avo vakamborava vanorooranawo pachavo vachizadzana mweya ye**** hapana anovarambidza
TeamShadaya💪🏾🔥🔥 · 2 years ago
Shadaya is a national treasure🤝🏾🏆
TeamShadaya💪🏾🔥🔥 · 2 years ago
Shadaya is the speaker of the truth and we as men lacked that voice with this so called equality movements which y’all’s have been pushing.
Wezhira · 2 years ago
Haa humhandara hongodiwa actually its a necessity mukufamba umu. Ini personally I respect mhandara kusangana nayo ndakazviona handitotambise mwana wevenhu but kunana shava out there who are on a mission to de- virgin the whole world. Havana tsitsi vanhu vacho. Iwe paunozoti chandawana batisisa mudzimu haupe kaviri unotorohwa nehana and wotoshaya wekubvunza kuti vaipinda vaipinda nejombo here kana kuti. I strongly agree with Shadaya and vakadzi should learn to value their body and before I go let's go and register to vote and tovhotora chamisa chete chete.
Good day
Yours Sincerely
Wezhira
Kudzie · 2 years ago
I will be by your side Shadaya,being married a woman whom u didn't devirginity it signfies defeat in manhood
Pride · 2 years ago
inini ndakatobvisa vasikana 5 virginity not kuti ndaida kuva wachisa but ndaitovadawo nemoyo wese but vese vari 5 kudaro we ended up tanetsana kana kuti ndabata kuti arikundihurira, tobva tatosiyana....now am happily married ndakawana futi musikana aiva mhandara takadanana tikarara tese kusvika ndazokwanisa kumuroorawo, I just wanna thank God kuti no matter how much I ****ed up ndichibvisa vana vevanhu mavirginity Mwari vakaita kuti ndiwani futi a virgin girl, Who is now my wife....may be it's bcz Mwari vakaonawo kuti pandairara nevamwe vasikana vese avo vandakabvisa humhandara zvaiitika out of true love I had for these girls and I was loyal kwavari but ndivo vakazondivhiringa Saka ndakanzworwa nyasha ndikawana futi mhandara......kune avo vakaroora vasiri mhandara it's fine guys as long muchiwirirana nemunhu wako bhoo. but I know kuti sometimes munogona kumbobhowekana nazvo....stay strong macomrades
christable · 2 years ago
it's still okey garai maziva virginity can be restored munhu kuita mhandara blv it or not Saka mvana dzose dai dzaiziva vaingozvita zve munhu ofunga kuti wawana virgin yako
Tman · 2 years ago
Exactly.. Mapills, injections and even surgeries ekurestore virginity azara... Imimi vanoda virginity munorara navo vanongodzora kuzasi... The more pressure you put on girls anokungwarira...
Wezhira · 2 years ago
@Sixpence ungazodawo **** here ranzwa nekukwirwa nemunhu wese
Tintin · 2 years ago
mvana ndedze mabhambi...uye dzinozvara vana mazungairwa...anogara pagroup 6 kuchikoro...🤔🤔🤔
Sixpence · 2 years ago
Better kutoroora hu.re rakapedza nazvo pane kuroora zero mileage inozohura yanzwa kunaka kwayo yaamumba.
Anonymous · 2 years ago
Haufungi unenge wakaroora wekubhawa iwe chero akazohura at least ndiwe wakatanga kuvhura iweunenge usina kumbonzwa the feeling of devirgin mukadzi wako majaira mughodhi .nyarara hapana chaunoziva usade kufurira vamwe nhema iwe roora ma**** ako siya vamwe varoore mavirgin .ndimi vana baba vanopihwa vana vasiri venyu uchinzi ndewako wozoziva wakura ndipo pauchaona kunaka kwekuroora virgin baba .Musapuse
As I see it · 2 years ago
When men respect their own virginity they can then respect a woman's virginity. It's a two way street.
Anonymous · 2 years ago
ABCD · 2 years ago
who is Shadaya to tell people what to do with their cash money ??????????? kana munhu achida kuroora a none virgin ndezvake izvo who is Shadaya to tell us men who to marry and who not to marry
Anonymous · 2 years ago
He is talking the truth and u can't run away from it
Zimyouth · 2 years ago
Ko iwe ndiwe ani asingadi chakanaka se virgin?
Y oh · 2 years ago
I'm looking at the girls today losing virginity at mostly around puberty at form1 or form 2 to their earliest boyfriend, who have not it in them to marry due to their own young ages ; read immaturity and economic standing etc. By the time the young man leave University and are ready for marriage their female equals had since lost virginity. The new marriage act says 18 is now the official marriageability age. Who is a virgin then?
Citizen raPep naChamisa · 2 years ago
Men nowadays are slowly becoming weak and **** beyond repair
How can one justify paying over 1000$ lobola kumunhu akavhurwa.ko munodi kuuya kubhawa tichikupai doro rakavhurika tione kuty hamurware here
Richcracy · 2 years ago
Inini hangu heede kuroora munhu akamboiswa, even kuyisa anemugodi wakanyatso kura it's better I forfeit match pa spot because vaskana who are longer virgins who are used to sleep with different man ,,ndivo vekuti yeeye wejongwe 2mins yeyee kadora wat wat ...in bhodo hangu
Dell · 2 years ago
Seems #virginity is trending.Now we know how men think. Chiendaiwo munoshanda. Vasikana venyu vari kuvhurira makumbo to the highest bidder 😂😂😂. Iwewe paunozouya anenge angwara
Richard Dube · 2 years ago
Bamwe vasikana vakazvarwa vasina virginity, so choose wise.😂😂😂😂😂😂
,,, dott · 2 years ago
Munhu akaborwa haaite,, haazomire ba kurohwa chinhu
HomeTrackOrg · 2 years ago
Shadaya's twit has a grain of truth which all of us should work on to restore the lost glory. If we all believe that lobola is token of appreciation then exactly is being appreciated kana mombe dzakatopoyera mugarden macho. If it's appreciating education, the men is too. Thus parents from either side do everything possible to maintain purity in their children most particularly the brides', which is then recognized and appreciated by paying mombe yeChimandamanda. Tinotoona zvedu anatezvara vachichager mombe iyoyo ivo vakatadza kuchengeta mwana wavo, achitoita kunge an abandoned mine shaft. Sorry to be a bit too hard but the fact is, let's all be responsible because these girl's don't make themselves abandoned shafts but men do. Vasikana ngavasose maoindu avo zvakanaka, uye vakomana ngavasungire tumbuzi twavo turege kurunza
Miss BitterLeaf · 2 years ago
the virginity issue favors men
Chipoko chaQueen · 2 years ago
How?,please explain
Nyaya yevirginity tikuitira kuty munhu aunounza mumba ave ari clean mumweya.ukaroora wife material rakarara nevanhu vane mweya yehurombe newe unoitawo rombe so I’m just trying to protect myself .plus kana usiri virgin don’t assume 15Million Zimbabweans are all having **** like you
Dell · 2 years ago
Will someone explain to me how someone sleeping nemumwe munhu might leave shavi rehurombe? Equally does it mean kuti akarara nevanemhanza yemari then iwewewo unoita mhanza yemari???
CIVILISED EXPLANATION ONLY
Chipoko chaQueen · 2 years ago
First of all this applies only if you are Christian or any religion basically.kana uchibeleiver kuty takangouyawo panyika/takabva pagudo and hakuna Mwari then skip my explanation
Every time you have ****.you are interacting spiritually too
Which means munhu wese awarara naye mave nyama imwe .if u sleep with 3 people who have demons unomatora ese iwe wovasiirawo ako and so on.Thats why you should do **** after marriage with one woman to prevent unnecessary drama
Chipoko chaQueen · 2 years ago
@Dell kana une nharo tarisa kuty why bby rinorara nemhondi mbavha rinopedzisira ramujeri.bby rinotengesa kuma avenue rinongofa nenhamo.mvana inoramba ichimitiswa vana vachiwanda
Dell · 2 years ago
@Chipoko ChaQueen. Kana wakuti it only applies to the belivers only aren't you promoting exclusivity to virgins. ? Yes i do understand pawati if someone associates with certain criminal minds they will end up in Jail. But isn't that only a matter of association? Surely you can't hope for the best when you're with criminals.
Then pa issue yemvana , we have some who were married vari ma virgin then it didn't work out cycle ndobva yatongoramba ichidaro. Can't speak for ma**** honestly
Lastly i know some men who are very conspicuous but successful financially(opposite yerombe). Lets say they married a devout virgin but they are sleeping around. Vachaitawo marombe or there's a totally logical explanation.?
Bagga · 2 years ago
Man are so wicked that they are after breaking the virg of every innocent girl around and when they think of settling they start searching for a virgin
dada · 2 years ago
A woman will forever carry the reminisce of the man who broke her virginity....
kubaz · 2 years ago
munhu akauya neroora ndoakatanga musindo...kare vanhu vaitoisirwa mucheka muchena zvoonekwa kut watora mskana akakwana here
Mai Tinee · 2 years ago
kovasingabude ropa but ari virgin vaidii navo
gboy · 2 years ago
ukaona girlfriend or wife yako ichimaka @Shadaya chibva waziva kuti zvakaendwa. Don't argue with me i don't have time for you
Soviet Union Leader · 2 years ago
pasi nekuroora mvana nema**** guys, pasi nevarume vakazungaira
Miss BitterLeaf · 2 years ago
ko virginity yevakomana keeee, why are u so concerned abt a women's virginity, we should consider both virginity yevarume neyevasikana, saka mukomana chete ndiye anotenderwa to sleep around with women here, mukomana ngaachengetedzewo virginity yake kna achidawo virginity yemusikana.
moreover kazhinji kacho virginity yemusikana inotobva asingadewo, asingatozvitarisewo,...
I think kt this issue ye virginity should be considered to both parties, totodawo ma virgin guys isu
Sir Summer · 2 years ago
Gentlemen lets gather here kkkk 😂😂😂
Chipoko chaQueen · 2 years ago
Ehe Madam with all due respect
Havasi varume vese vanopfeva sezvamunofunga and havasi vaskana vese vanoita izvozvo too.Ukaona murume achida virgin ichoice yake coz dzimba dzizhinji dzaputswa nekuroora mvana kana munhu ane milage bcoz munhu wese aunorara naye anokusiira mademon ake and mamwe acho anoputsa misha.so it’s safe kutooranabnemunhu ari clean spiritualy
Tk · 2 years ago
Virginity yemukomana inopinda papi? Ko vakomana vanobvisirwawo roora here
· 2 years ago
kungochemera mavirgin imi muine tudora
Sabhuku · 2 years ago
Wapotsa nyaya yema roora apo. Unless mabhebhi aakubhadhara token of appreciation.
trey · 2 years ago
Shadaya anofanira kuitwa Minister ogara nema body guard otherwise anourawa nevakadzi manje manje
Soviet Union Leader · 2 years ago
i support you ipapo, Shadhaya for Minister of Truth😂
Brian · 2 years ago
Shadaya is 100% ryt
Brian · 2 years ago
ko ungati chii kana wakamushaya but deep down we all know every man once munhu asina kumboitwa nevamwe
Tave · 2 years ago
Taura hako kubvisira mumhu pfuma akambovatwa hakuite xar
Iju · 2 years ago
Shadaya Chibaba anovhura maziso
Spencer · 2 years ago
Baba Harare anonyanyoda majoki. Learn or perish.
