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"There Cannot Be 1 Law For Zuma And Another For Ramaphosa" - Ex-president Zuma

2 years agoMon, 09 Jan 2023 14:40:42 GMT

"There Cannot Be 1 Law For Zuma And Another For Ramaphosa" - Ex-president Zuma

South Africa’s former President Jacob Zuma says his urgent court application to block his private prosecution of President Cyril Ramaphosa will test “whether Lady Justice has removed her blindfold in South Africa“.

Zuma made the remarks in his replying affidavit to Ramaphosa’s court application to avoid appearing in the criminal court on Thursday, January 19. IOL cites him as saying:

There cannot be one law for Zuma and another law for Ramaphosa if the rule of law and equality before the law are still the guiding principles of our justice system.

He also said:

1). Even the late former president Nelson Mandela was hauled before a court for cross-examination when it was then unprecedented for a head of state.
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2). Ramaphosa was capable of obtaining effective relief in due course before the scheduled criminal trial.
3). There is no reason to give [Ramaphosa] preferential treatment over other accused persons, simply because he happens to be president adding “There is no separate law for presidents (or even former presidents) and another law for ‘ordinary’ people.”

Zuma is accusing the president of being an accomplice in breaching provisions of the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) Act after the authority allegedly unlawfully leaked his medical records to the media.

Ramaphosa Gives Jacob Zuma Until Monday To Withdraw Private Prosecution Summons

Ramaphosa says Zuma is abusing legal processes and that he requires a certificate of non-prosecution from the NPA in order to initiate private prosecution.

Zuma’s court papers in the high court in Johannesburg say Ramaphosa’s application to block the private prosecution was based on the claims of an improper motive and political conspiracy.

Zuma said he was determined to ensure that Ramaphosa faced the might of the law.

The offence for which Ramaphosa is charged carries the possible heavy penalty of 15 years imprisonment.

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9 Comments

Anonymous · 2 years ago

Well organized debate. This is GREAT

Jamutingo · 2 years ago

Gegegege bwoo bwoo bwoo bwoo ndafa hangu nekuseka.ana dotti nevamwe vavo haumbovanzwe pakadai.kana zvibaba zvotipa analysis vanopinda mumachira.basa kushungurudza vana vevhu.kikiki ayaya hoihoi

tinTin · 2 years ago

🤣🤣🤣

chinembiri chitambira · 2 years ago

thanks for detailed updates on the subject...helps some of us to catch up and compare with our dear Zim

Machiavelli · 2 years ago

I feel honoured and humbled 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

Zimcitizen · 2 years ago

In Zimbabwe there is separate law for Zanupf and another law for ‘ordinary’ people," who include the opposition,Trade Unions & ex-wives like Mary & Jocelyn.

jmp · 2 years ago

Zuma and Ramaphosa

Zim lawyer · 2 years ago

south Africa is a Stark example of a country of a county that observe the rule of law have totally three independent Pilar's of state so the judiciary will give fair judgement between Zuma and Ramaphosa

Jeremiah Mafirakureva · 2 years ago

@ nuff respect to Machiavelli! I hear u bro ... but , if CR17 is innocent , why try by hook & crook to avoid his day in court? the mere fact that he "poked holes onto Zuma's summons" doon not absolve him of being tried in a court of law . on the flip side, I envy Zuma's tenacious resolve, his strategic manouvres & clandestine moves. Got my scopes on how the matter unfolds! Muchina wami! Muchina wami!

Machiavelli · 2 years ago

The law operates at two planes - process and substance. Far from dribbling past substantive issues, Cyril Ramaphosa is only saying that JZ (Kangaman/Showerhead) did not follow due process. By law in order to prosecute privately one needs authority from the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA). The rationale being to avoid vexatious and insubstantial lawsuits clogging the judicial system. Cyril is only saying get NPA Authority to prosecute. He isn't saying don't prosecute. Admittedly JZ is good at dribbling around legal issues. I have to give him credit for that. But that is to be expected of a former head of intelligence in the ANC during the liberation era. That is exactly how he survived the Shabir Shaik bribe scandal. Shaik the giver of the bribe went to jail but Zuma, the receiver remained unscathed and never saw the courtroom. Mshini wami Mshini wami....

Machiavelli · 2 years ago

The timing of serving summonses on Cyril Ramaphosa was a clear indication of the intent to either embarrass Cyril or block his bid for the ANC presidency for a second term. That unfortunately failed as not only did Cyril poke holes into the summons but also somehow helped Ramaphosa gain more votes than he would have otherwise got. In the end the Zuma/Zulu fraction within the ANC suffered an ignominious defeat, failing to get not even a single seat in the Top Seven. While Ace Magashùle may have originally been in the Zuma camp, he since has ditched the grouping. Even if he were to try what the ex-Secretary General tried, he is completely outnumbered and outgunned. While legally Zuma may create an irritating missile bite, it is my belief that substantively he has little chance of winning the case against the President. The facts are that The Medical Parole Board found against the Commissioner-General of Correctional Services but the latter went on to give Zuma Medical Parole. Resultantly he lost his job. All the President did was to accede to Parliamentary process by releasing the Medical Board's decision. If Cyril Ramaphosa had not given Parliament that document, he would have been in breach of Parliamentary Protocol. Zuma's hold on the ANC has withered. His judicial problems are mounting and he has burned his bridges. In the event of him being found guilty in the State Capture trials, he cannot expect either ANC support or Presidential Amnesty now.

T Chiware · 2 years ago

@Machiavelli. Chibaba, I hope 2023 is treating you well. Its always wonderful to hear your illuminating thoughts. We need more of your exposés in this election year. Msholozi is the Teflon Don. He's slick, bulletproof & nothing sticks onto him. His litigation, in my estimation, has nothing to do with substantive or procedural legal issues. Ubaba kaDuduzane is simply poking holes into Cyril Rhamapithecus' integrity. The litigation also lends ammunition, to the ever growing SA opposition, with which they'll attack the ANC. The common man is not well versed with the nuances of the law and is impressionable. The Kangaman hopes to imress upon ordinary South Africans thay CR17 is a criminal, abusing his power to avoid justice & persecute his opponents. Such insinuations tend to stick in the minds of simpletons. I see the SA opposition gaining traction as a result of perceptions created by JZ's litigation of the current SA President. On an unrelated matter. Whats your take on the Draft Delimitation report (Daft Elimination report)? Is it a charade to hoodwink the CCC into investing energy on a none issue, or is it a genuine attempt at strengthening the Old People's home's chance at retaining or surpassing a super majority in the August House?

Machiavelli · 2 years ago

@Worzell, I agreed with what Vesto said (see article on Excerpts of Delimitation Report on page 3) so I decided not to comment. In short gerrymandering in Epaton (to capitalise on Title Deeds ZEC created 2 seats) and 3 in the shanty town of Southlea/Manyame Park. Of interest were my pet Constituencies of Chiredzi (with its 45,000 nzimbe votes in 2018) and Uzumba (34,000 votes dzomapuno) which DID NOT get any extra seats. So ZEC cheated in those two in 2018 in favour of ZANU. As for the slippery Msholozi, I'm sure you saw my treatise in answer. Note the Shaik jibe.

Tisumaboss · 2 years ago

thanx guys you make this storry intresting