Bulawayo-based self-styled prophet, Mduduzi Dube popularly known as Black Elisha is reportedly demanding between US$100 and US$150 for a one-on-one session or consultation fee for an audience with him.
Dube, who is the founder of Christ Life Generation Church defended charging consultation fees, a practice considered by some Christians to be contrary to the teachings of the Bible.
Speaking to B-Metro, Dube defended the practice saying the money is needed to make the prophet presentable and also to help develop the church and fund the preaching of the Gospel. He said:
Some people can only cope with being broke, they can’t manage with being blessed.
This is because if I bless you, after those consultations or one on one sessions your life will change immediately.
Life is a battleground and if you don’t create a strong atmosphere of prayers through one on one sessions with a man of God, you can’t access certain blessings because the kingdom of darkness is also interested in making those blessings not to get to you.
It’s just like asking why some people are patronising expensive restaurants. One of the reasons is the level of services being offered by those restaurants.
From having bread crumbs dusted off the table to be able to signal the staff with silverware placement to the staff’s knowledge of the dishes.
Presentation and the atmosphere are also some of the reasons. From how the table is set to how the food is placed on the plates. It displays a level of pride and attention to detail.
Likewise, as a true man of God who is blessing and healing people, I should not look wretched as you will take me as a bogus prophet or not have faith in my work.
That money from the consultation fees is used to help develop the church and some is used to preach the word of God and testify His goodness.
Last year, another Bulawayo-based self-proclaimed prophet Bruce Edwards (real name Bruce Ncube), founder of Kingdom Empowerment Centre Church (KEC) also sparked debate after it emerged that he was allegedly demanding a US$20 consultation fee for an audience with him.
Ncube was also reportedly taking US$6 for a seat from congregants who wanted to attend his lunch-hour services.
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bhobhojani bhadhiza · 1 year ago
@Hokage ruregerero nekunonoka kukupindura ndanga ndine twumwe twandibata verenga scripture iyiRomans 9:9.,10.,11.,12.,13.,14.,15.,16.
9. For this was how the promise was stated: 'At the appointed time I will return, and Sarah will have a son.'
Nokuti shoko rakapikirwa ndirori: Nenguva yakaita seino ndichavuya, Sara uchava nomwanakomana. 10. Not only that, but Rebekah's children had one and the same father, our father Isaac.
Hazvizi izvozvo bedzi; asi Rebeka vo, wakati ava nemimba kunomumwe, iye Isaka, baba vedu 11. Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad-in order that God's purpose in election might stand:
nokuti vana vasati vaberekwa, vasati vaita zvakanaka kana zvakaipa, kuti kufunga kwaMwari pakusanangura kwake kusimbiswe, kusingabvi pamabasa, asi kunaiye unodana, 12. not by works but by him who calls-she was told, 'The older will serve the younger.'
zvakanzi kwaari: Mukuru uchashumira mudoko. 13. Just as it is written: 'Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.'
Sezvazvakanyorwa, zvichinzi: Jakobho ndakamuda, asi Esau ndakamuvenga. 14. What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all!
Zvino tichatiyiko? Kusarurama kuripo kunaMwari here? Haiswa! 15. For he says to Moses, 'I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.'
Nokuti unoti kunaMosesi: Ndichanzwira ngoni wandinonzwira ngoni, ndichanzwira tsitsi wandinonzwira tsitsi. 16. It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, but on God's mercy.
Naizvozvo hazvibvi kunounoda, kana kunounomhanya, asi kunaMwari, munzwiri wengoni.
Hokage · 1 year ago
Nharo ndedzei nhai bhobhojani , wakangwa nemafacts zvakanaka, wanyatso tsvukirira ukuda kutanga kurwisa kuti ufure , It is clear , Crystal CLEAR that God is nolonger in touch with humans as he was in the past , ndakupa Wani example, kudhara Mwari vaiparadza ma cities aisinner , asi look everyone is sinning , hapana kana kwanzi hee muporofita agenda ku New York City kunoudza vanhu kuti Mwari vachaiparadza , clearly things have changed , and I have no Idea how those verses even connect to what we are saying here , frankly I believe you are just scrambling for explanations as to why God is nolonger involved with us as he was , you want to believe so hard that God is active among , us , all those pastors that claim to have "VISIONS" and "talk to God" best believe they are talking to Demons , I am even more assured that this prophet is a fake when he starts atlking about opening financial doors and what not , that's a red flag for me , and for those CASTING of demons , they're all just acts , Inini ndakaenda church yaiita zvekucaster ma demons , ndakabaya pastage paye pastor vachirira ndimi , vamwe vanhu vachidonha, vachi gwina gwina , being dramatic and what not , He called me up saying I had huge big demons , I am no faker , I walked up to that pretender , imimi ana bhobhojani I'm sure kuti maizotanga kupupa pupa pa stage , he did all he did , he touched my head and what not but I didn't even flinch , I starred at that fool straight in the eyes , he could see that I was not ****.ing around , I could see in his eyes , it's like he was pleading with me to get down and start rolling for the masses to see as "demons" escaped my body , I also went to Christ Embassy, I think , that church with pastor Chris , Pastor Chris was on TV , and he did something and all the church members started leaning backwards and I was like , what tha f.uc.k , is this how the Israelites worshipped YHWH , Everyone was faking it , Christianity is dead , frankly I have found only one church where they actually worship God and read the bible , but no one wants to get a hold of them , go to the Jehovah's witnesses and I tell you , you will never hear hee hee huya ndikunamatire , those guys are legit in my opinion , They study the bible , they do what is in the bible , they don't go out of line , that's what I like , sticking to the bible ...
Sorojena · 1 year ago
Each denomination has got its own bible interpretation,. I Left Jehovah's Witness Church because they do not allow their members to take blood transfusion when in dire need, they insist that you should eat beatroot as blood supplement knowingly that it doesn't work
@hokage · 1 year ago
You are not very far away from the Kingdom of God. You have the eyes that can see God. You will see Him. I like the way you face the truth even when everyone else is going against you, not because they know better but because of fear. They can not stand the truth lest they lose their standing ground which happens to be a rug suspended in mid air. Yet God is calling them to the solid rock in the ground. Who then is ready to fall (to the ground) for God?
Hokage · 1 year ago
here's the truth nobody wants to hear : God does not bless anyone with material things , specifically money , food , etc , nor does he open opportunities for people, all of this come from the world , you might deny this now because this belief has been sewn onto your mind , but ask yourself this , why would God help you , what makes you think you're worthy ? most lost people say hee hee because God loves me , Oh please, are you saying God chooses between people, who deserves a good life , who don't deserve his love , there's someone on the other side of the world who is way more kind and loving than you and worships God just as you do but they live in abject poverty , does this mean God chooses among people, think about it , the truth is God does not interfere in our financial lives or worldly lives only spiritual lives , what makes you think God will intervene to give you money when he's just allowed some kid in Somalia to die of hunger ..think people, think , stop believing what you want , and face the facts..
@ hokage · 1 year ago
read hebrews chapter 4 and stop that nonsense theology my boy.
Hokage · 1 year ago
you're the one whose nonsensical , I just read the whole of Hebrews chapter 4 and it doesn't even link with what we're talking about here , I am not surprised, you cannot face the truth , you would rather find refuge in lies .
kazekage · 1 year ago
tell him hokage
Evangelist · 1 year ago
@Hokage. If you're to condemn the works of the man as a prophet or endorse his works, base your views on scripture, the Word of God. Don't evaluate his actions against personal morality and logic. Go back to scripture and you will find everyone whom God blessed received material things. The examples are far too many to mention on limited space and time. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, etc.
Hokage · 1 year ago
Evangelist , I'm not oblivious I acknowledge that it indeed happened, but things are different now that was then , when God was more active in People's lives , before Israel rejected him , when one could actually talk to God and he would answer back , when he used to destory sinfull cities , now look Las Vegas is still standing , Los Angeles is still around and people are sinning harder than before , NEVER HAS SULFUR AND FIRE RAINED ON THEM BEFORE ... Clearly this my friend is a sign that is IRREFUTABLE that God nolonger does things the way he did back then , this is the time of faith , the time in which we have to believe in something we cannot see , that is why it is written Famba nokutenda kwete nokuona ...times are different brah and you must acknowledge that 😒, they've been different for a long time now.
Hokage · 1 year ago
so with that said , the time of God blessing believers with material things is OVERRRRRRRRRRRRRR🙌
377 · 1 year ago
well said. God left this planet ages ago
Muvhangeri · 1 year ago
@377, verengai shoko raMwari. Murikutsigira zvisimo mushoko. You are supporting personal opinions. You can only understand God's word and His being through His word.
Sorojena · 1 year ago
God is a title of a deity, we have quite so many deities in this universe and they have different names. No wonder even Satan is a deity and has a great following in this world, your god may not be my god. So be careful when following those so called prophets, they may lure you to a wrong deity
@ hokage · 1 year ago
hebrews chapter 4 speaks about profiting from God.You just can't profit without faith.some people don't have faith to believe for prosperity and God can't do anything about it.