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The Decision For Nelson Chamisa To Quit CCC Was A Rushed One - Eric Matinenga

1 year agoSat, 27 Jan 2024 22:02:46 GMT
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The Decision For Nelson Chamisa To Quit CCC Was A Rushed One - Eric Matinenga

Eric Matinenga, a former Constitutional Affairs Minister, has said that Nelson Chamisa’s decision to leave the Citizens Coalition for Change (CCC) was rushed. In a statement seen by Pindula News, Matinenga suggested that Chamisa should have consulted key stakeholders and the public before making such a move. He proposed that MPs and Senators write a joint letter to dissociate themselves from the “fictitious” Sengezo Tshabangu-led CCC. He said:

I am advised, which advice I accept, that Nelson Chamisa was placed in such a suffocating environment that he had to conduct himself in the manner/way he did.

I give him the benefit of the doubt.

I am unable to provide detailed facts which informed that advice.

Am sure there are people who are better able to do so, if they so wish.

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In my view however, the decision (for Nelson Chamisa to quit CCC) was a rushed one.

There was need to consult and get the buy in of relevant critical stakeholders. Ideally, the citizenry should have been consulted, a consultation which could not be carried out in the limited suffocating circumstances.

There are certain stakeholders and issues which must be addressed now if they were not addressed at the time the decision to remove oneself from CCC.

Parliament sits on Monday, there is time before Monday for Nelson Chamisa to meet the true CCC members, interrogate issues in a no-holds-barred manner and come to a common way forward.

I am aware that certain MPs have indicated their respective courses of action.

My suggestion is that all MPs and Senators address a joint letter to the Speaker of Parliament and President of the Senate dissociating themselves from the fictitious Sengezo Tshabangu CCC and identifying their leader of the house.

Chamisa must do a supporting letter and dare Tshabangu to recall the MPs.

If recalled, they should not contest the recalls.

There are cases before the courts challenging recalls in one way or the other.

Instructions must be withdrawn so that they are not argued when called. The by-elections on 3 February must be forgotten.

However, Peter Gift Mutasa, former President of the Zimbabwe Congress of Trade Unions, disagreed with the joint approach, stating that Chamisa had given each member the freedom to choose their stance. Ibbo D Mandaza, an academic, supported Matinenga’s views. Some argued that Chamisa’s decision was influenced by the challenging political environment he faced.

Some CCC Members of Parliament (MPs) have since announced their withdrawal from Parliament and pledged to support Nelson Chamisa who is expected to launch a new political party.

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Dzete · 1 year ago
Apa hatibvumirani nemi chikonamombe.Musangano wakapindwa na pongwe.Regai atange zvake.Zvekusirwa zvonetsa sepfuma ye nhaka izvi
KG · 1 year ago
DZINONZI POLTICS NOT POLITICS. FROM THE SLOGAN, NGAAPINDE HAKE MKOMANA TO NGAAENDE HAKE MKOMANA. ZANUPF IS NOT A PUSHOVER. DON'T PLAY WITH A PARTY THAT WENT TO WAR FOR YEARS MURIKUTAMBA BHORA RESIMBI. IF HE FORMS ANOTHER PARTY, IT WILL BE INFILTRATED AGAIN. THATS OBVIOUS. YOU WILL FIGHT EACH OTHER BEYOND 2030 ZANUPF ICHINGOTONGA IGOTONGA KUSVIKA MADHONGI AMERA NYANGA. WISE AND TRUE PROPHECY FROM THE LATE SECOND SECRETARY AND VICE PRESIDENT CDE SIMON MUZENDA. VERY TRUE INDEED.
· 1 year ago
Could Mzee count to 2,030? Une chokwadi here iwe?
A1 · 1 year ago
Political commentator Davis Laque says former Constitutional Affairs Minister Eric Matinenga was wrong to suggest that Chamisa’s decision to leave the Citizens Coalition for Change (CCC) party was rushed. This comes after journalist Hopewell Chin’ono posted on his social media pages a statement he attributed to Matinenga. In the statement, Matinenga said Chamisa should have consulted “relevant critical stakeholders” and get their buy-in before quitting. He said: There are certain stakeholders and issues which must be addressed now if they were not addressed at the time of the decision to remove oneself from CCC. Parliament sits on Monday, there is time before Monday for Nelson Chamisa to meet the true CCC members, interrogate issues in a no-holds-barred manner and come to a common way forward. Posting on X, Laque said Matinenga’s suggestion that CCC MPs write to Parliament disassociating from Tshabangu’s authority, that Chamisa writes a supporting letter to Parliament, and that CCC legislators collectively dare Tshabangu to recall them and not contest the recalls, is problematic. Below is part of Laque’s argument: The problem with that proposed intervention is that… [firstly] it suggests a repetition of an exercise in futility. After the first batch of recalls, CCC engaged; wrote a letter to Parly and the Senate, clarifying this mess. Chamisa also wrote a series of other letters. All was ignored. Secondly, all calls to alternatively bait and threaten Tshabangu to recall legislators who do not recognize his state-engineered authority puts CCC exactly where the regime wants it to be. That is a state of perpetual infighting, at the expense of organizing against ZANU PF. It’s not by chance that Tshabangu hasn’t recalled everyone associating with Adv Chamisa. The plan is not to recall all of them anywhere, regardless of any bait. The regime is just hell-bent on isolating Chamisa and keeping him in a state of unresolvable internal firefighting All pretense of engaging state institutions and fighting Tshabangu only legitimises his shenanigans. We already witnessed what will come out of this wait-and-see game during the MDC-A party fights. That approach limits what the legitimate leadership of the alternative can do. Thirdly, suggesting that Chamisa requests CCC legislators to take certain actions in the name of “consultation” only serves to project him as demanding others to sacrifice for what appears to be his problem. We’ve already witnessed some unfortunate excuses for staying put. In any case, a view that CCC as a party rejects the 2023 election in totality was already shot down. So was a call to abandon participating in the ensuing by-elections, which Adv Matinenga put forward as another strategy. All this was debated within formal CCC forums. Also, Adv Matinenga’s submission makes the grave assumption that Tshabangu is the only cancer ravaging CCC. Regrettably, some within CCC have sensed opportunities to take advantage of this mayhem to wage a serious fight against what they perceive to be a wounded Chamisa. Fourthly, Chamisa was correct to guard against what would’ve appeared as a renaming and rebranding of CCC. Though his close and trusted allies are individually aware of what’s transpiring, it was strategic that he allows individuals to freely consult their conscience and voters. In ending this, people are better off fighting from a position where they can dictate their own pace. CCC ceased being such a platform. Any delay would just be a reluctance to accept the inevitable. It’s time to focus energies on opportunities that have arisen now. More: Pindula News
ED · 1 year ago
zvepolitics nhaka muchazvirega zvoda isu takabva. musango mati. madi henyu mirai muone zvatinoita chi party chenyu chamuri kuda kuformer
Apolitical · 1 year ago
they was no need for @NelsonChamisa to consult stakeholders or mps or what so ever,by doing so most would have disagreed to his move ending up voting for his move. By him just taking a move that will show exactly those who are with him or not. Those who want to keep their position on parliament will automatically mean that they rally with this other guy, but those who simple resign from hold seats at parliament will automatically show their alignment with @NelsonChamisa. Also everything pertain CCC should from hence forth stop function if we say we with @NelsonChamisa this other guy should feel the heat let's give him sleepless nights. @NelsonChamisa if he decides to open a church as some are saying in mockery we will go there and become elders, ushers decons We await for the next big move and we will checkmate
Anonymous · 1 year ago
Apolitical the bigger picture is not to have chamisa as a presidential candidate come 2028, the ones following him like they have blind faith to the resigned leader are the planted snakes keeping guard of the regime grand plan, its all about 2028 when ed is out, problem is mdc's whatever names they give themselves is fanatism hence emotions lead brains then get beat by basic trickery
Zuze · 1 year ago
@AnoyMouse, uri kuedza kutiiko?
just · 1 year ago
we're behind chamisa chete chete chete chete chete chete
Yoyoyo · 1 year ago
@just, you and who ? You do not speak on behalf of others
x · 1 year ago
Just, myself, and my whole family including the extended one and the more than 2 million voters...are behind Chamisa okay ....@yoyoyo..
Zuze · 1 year ago
@x, please add Zuze, his immediate & extended family, his clansmen, neighbours and tribe to the 'others' that Yoyo is bobbing up and down for.
Rtgs · 1 year ago
Where were you all along Mr Matinenga when the Matebele dogs where doing **** now you have been sent by your handlers to talk ****, leave Chamisa alone,
Zim-Sketch · 1 year ago
at a meeting with Chamisa before Dec 18 nomination date everyone was told point blank that there was no need to file their names as it was crystal clear that the Court and Tshabangu will do what they did, but people choose to file their names. As much as President Chamisa understand that some of our MPs will loose their source of income, the mandate of forming CCC was not to have the source of income..... if the circumstances are not enabling the genuine CCC members to perform as we agreed to, no need to hold on. no one is being forced to follow Chamisa. everyone is still free to do as he or she wishes..... there is no instructions from change champion in chief to resign from your position...... be at your position at tshabangu's disposal........ Chamisa wrote a letter to parliament and Senate telling them to ignore Tshabangu.... and what happened??? so what makes you think they will listen now???? this guy is not as wise as I thought he is....
# · 1 year ago
Well said
lloyd chikwata · 1 year ago
chabangu ndiye aka betrayer our will dai risir ringachabangu titori ahead sha tanga waona pane nyaya
Mukadota · 1 year ago
Another waste of time. He must first apologize for personalizing CCC. He betrayed the masses
. · 1 year ago
Mass tisu...tirikuenda naye to the blue horizon. Chamisa is our only foot forward
@Mukadota · 1 year ago
ndezvako iwe ita apologize kwatiri for making us read ur ****t u don't even understand the dynamics of politics wangocommenta jus because Pindula is for free **** bhanguza
💙 · 1 year ago
Mukomana did a commendable job indeed, CCC was so heavily infiltrated, not infiltrated as such but heavily contaminated. The scenario at CCC was becoming dangerous for Chamisa, he risked being assassinated.
drew · 1 year ago
chamisa itype inotya kuchera mugodhi pamba nekuti vana vanozowiramo... achangoteerwa Ku new party.unless aita independent candidate
tom bee · 1 year ago
i love chamisa forever ndotevera kwese ,zichabangu zimuroyi chairo kushandiswa nezanu
.... · 1 year ago
Dont think this Matinenga advocate is living in Zimbabwe nor does he understand the toxic political terrain Chamisa was in. Abandoning this contaminated party was the best move. All along you were quiet wani
Gweshegweshe · 1 year ago
Chamisa will fail. He was always destined to fail
mampentsha · 1 year ago
@Gweshegweshe unoreva kuti hausi kuona kuti he is on his 2s already? kungwara kwako kushoma!
💙 · 1 year ago
Munomuziva here mukomana, he is the one w****se from the ashes and is destined to greater heights in the politics of Zimbabwe. Ini nedzindza rangu we're behind Chamisa.
ZANU PF IS NOT A PUSHOVER · 1 year ago
ZANU PF IS NOT A PUSHOVER
bk85 · 1 year ago
ndiko kunonzi kurova imbwa vakawiga mupini zvinodiva kti wavengi vasaone kti zvirikufamba sei
lloyd chikwata · 1 year ago
1his plan is 100% hazviiti kuti ati handei tose why dzimwe inyoka 2 wake achaonekwa nokumuteera why vanoda basa vachasara pabasa avo havasi ve democracy 3 kune vachauya kan iri nyoka he wll turn them down nokut anovaziv paAmbiguity plan yake.So hapan chaipa apa .
Bhomora Zvekuti · 1 year ago
🤣🤣🤣 Nyika inoye Zim yakaurayiwa na Emmerson Devil Mnangagwa. Imagine kuti ma Ama2000s vari ona ma Role Models api.... Ana Chivhayo gain wealth from corruption, they are seeing musicians like Jah Prayzah accepting gifts and singing for a wicked President like ED. Even Holy 10 is part of Zanu nana Enzo futi. I feel sorry for the kids going up vachiona the elders and youths vanoita huwori unosemesa kudaro. Celebrities are influential and what Jah Prayzah is doing singing songs for Zanu and ED is so foolish
💅Rude Ugly Rudo · 1 year ago
I will follow the charismatic Nelson Chamisa wherever he goes. Ini ndati Mukomana agona kusiyira #Tshabangu party yeCCC. Nelson is very clever - that's why I love him. Nero ndimuda zvangu ini 💯%
Tanatswa · 1 year ago
@💅Rude Ugly Rudo, apa mareva chokwadi sisi vangu. Nelson Chamisa chibaba chihombe - chiye chinonzi CHIBABEST, lol
Yoyoyo · 1 year ago
😁😁 Waratidza kuti hausi hůre rakazorwa mwiri wese ne blambì ya ED
Mai vaYoyoyo · 1 year ago
@Yoyoyo nyarara uri kuita noise. Wamwa here mapuritsi mwanangu ?
Bvepfepfe · 1 year ago
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Another day has come in Zimbabwe ya ED the DDictato. So ED just wants to eliminate the major opposition who happens to be Chamisa anodiwa by the majority. Dai Priscilla Chigumba akaita announce kuti Chamisa has been duely elected as President in the afternoon she was going to be safe from harm. But she chose to it at night kuti ED is the winner
Zuze · 1 year ago
The suggestion made by Advocate Eric Matinenga, and I quote "My suggestion is that all MPs and Senators address a joint letter to the Speaker of Parliament and President of the Senate dissociating themselves from the fictitious Sengezo Tshabangu CCC and identifying their leader of the house ..." is something that sitting MPs and Senators should undertake, with or without Chamisa's supporting letter. That way they would call Tshabangu's bluff. Should Tshabangu and handlers decide to recall all MPs and Senators, so be it.
🧐 🤔 🙄 · 1 year ago
But what did Tshabangu do to gain such sacrifices, It was just like picking up correct players for the team as some ndovaya vaitenga Jersey ne ma home theatre pa era ye asiagate scandal yema warriors, but we did not see players quitting football after asiagate did we? So that sellout really is a portrait of lm maturity at its highest He's vowed to start a new party, that is more consuming that the current one What then would happen to his face logo napowo pekuisa face server, Ko what if Tshabangu vows not to remove that youthful face unless until some embezzlement cases get resolved
Zuze · 1 year ago
@zvidhori zvitatu, please try to keep debate making sense. Maakuda kuti tizoite teachers on Pindula. Your response to what I said is at total variance. If this was a classroom situation I would mark your diatribe a big "Waffle" and "irrelevant" Usangoteera Zuze and confuse issues. Your soccer analogy is as confused as it is confusing. Moreover your assertion of new party being more 'consuming' is irrelevant. More consuming in terms of what? Time? Money? Resources? Manpower? Anyway why would you be so worried about Chamisa's resources and how he consumes them? Aren't you weeping louder than the bereaved? As for the link between the CCC logo and "embezzlement" is tenuous to say the least. If Chamisa had received government funding. that would make sense. If the donors aren't complaining about missing funds, why should you? Imari yako here? Eish, maBorder Gezi graduands are a more tedious than ECD graduates.
okongo the villager · 1 year ago
Tshabangu kana ari munhu anedzakakwana ngaachitora marangwanda e CCC yasiiwa naChamisa oisa musoro wake paParty logo panga paine waChamisa kwete kuswero shandisa party logo ine mufananidzo waChamisa tione kuti anobudirira here . asiirwa chimuti ngaachimhanya nacho tione.if he thinks he is for the people he he should now show his leadership qualities and let people see if he has anyone supporting his nefarious deeds ,asara pamhene saMwonzora.hakuna kwaanosvika basa rekuda kudya paasina kurima
Anonymous · 1 year ago
Can be tricky since Tshabangu said he wants to remove criminals around Chamisa if I am correct
Lovejoy chinya · 1 year ago
siyanai naChamisa its a good move
Atimusiye Chamisa · 1 year ago
lmi siyanai naChamisa aana kudaidza mnhu angoti zveCCC asiya imi motorwadziwa ndizvo chii chakubatabatai ipapoo itai zvinofambisa nyika munhu wese arikungoti Chamisa chii nhai
Ghetto Prophet · 1 year ago
The greatest fear is Ccc being infiltrated by Zanu, then Nero shouldn't trust anyone and consulting would also give a misdirected outcome. He has done the best move,
Adibayo · 1 year ago
the move was good one Maida agarire mat,,,,zvi iwayo
Anonymous · 1 year ago
ZANU IS NOT A PUSHOVER · 1 year ago
ZANU IS NOT A PUSHOVER
The Rhodesian · 1 year ago
💯% is Nelson Chamisa
Onarebho Memba · 1 year ago
Cobra never consulted us over his quitting. takazongoona pa sosho midea dzave nhau ndikatoshaya kut how far. i thought airevesa when he always said that chinhu ichi hachisi changu, but ndechema citizens.
Mai Ro · 1 year ago
chiripo ndechekuti those snakes who were betraying the people's cause are now left to squander for cover and relevance. tose tinoziva kuti nyoka idZi parizvino ndoovaye ma ccc officials vasiri kubuda pachena pavamire vachimirira kuona kuti chii chichaitika. sei vana biti navavana ncube vakanyarara vachitadza kubuda pachena vachitsigira mutungamiri wavo chamisa uye vachirumbidza hutungamiri hwake. vazhinji takatarisa tichiona zvedu kuti varikudivi rekushandira vanhu ndevapi uye varikudivi redzinyoka ndevapi.
mampentsha · 1 year ago
"*Dingilizwe Tshuma, former legislator for Entumbane-Njube constituency in Bulawayo as chair; Albert Mhlanga (former Pumula MP and deputy); Sengezo Tshabangu (secretary-general); Khaliphani Phugeni (information); Sikhululekile Moyo (interim chairperson for women); Nomvula Mguni (ex-proportional representation MP), Mbuso Siso (treasurer) and Benoni Ncube (youth).*" the 9 criminals(izigelekeqe) from Bulawayo who are behind the recalls of CCC MPs and Councillors.

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