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Mbeki Says Zim Regime Change Conspirators Organised 2008 SA Xenophobia For Votes Against Mugabe

4 months agoTue, 10 Sep 2024 15:20:16 GMT
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Mbeki Says Zim Regime Change Conspirators Organised 2008 SA Xenophobia For Votes Against Mugabe

Former South African President Thabo Mbeki has accused unnamed conspirators of organising the 2008 xenophobia in South Africa. He said the xenophobia was systematically organised to drive Zimbabweans back home to vote Mugabe out of power.

Speaking during a QnA session at a UNISA event, Mbeki said South Africans living in Alexandria (where the xenophobic attacks started) have a long history of co-existing peacefully with other Africans and could not have started it.

Mbeki said his government, when he was president,  had the evidence of meetings by the conspirators but that he had not declassified it when he had the chance.

Said Mbeki:

Alexander Township in Johannesburg that township has always always had people from all over the continent with no friction, historically. The African community here has never been xenophobic about other Africans. In 2008, all manner of trouble breaks out in Alexander Township in Johannesburg. Attacks on these foreigners particularly Zimbabweans then it spread elsewhere… xenophobia, xenophobia, afrophobia, afrophobia.

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So me I say when I saw that thing I am in government I was president. I said ‘but this is not Alexander Township. Alex, for decades has had Zimbabweans and Mozambicans and this and that and never ever this conflict. Why? 

There’s a mistake we made as government and not to declassify an intelligence document about what happened in Alexander 2008. That thing was organised to drive the Zimbabweans out of the country back to Zimbabwe because there were elections in Zimbabwe. It was people who were being driven out. They were going to vote against Bob Mugabe there. An intelligence report which has got the names and the dates and venues where people met and planned this and so on….

It’s presented as an xenophobic attack by the people of Alex against [Zimbabweans]… It was wrong. It was organised, systematic for the political purpose.

Robert Mugabe narrowly lost the election to Morgan Tsvangirayi even as the results were announced very late causing speculation that the margin of loss was wider. Emmerson Mnangagwa admitted recently that Mugabe was ready to handover power to the opposition after the loss.

A presidential run-off election announced as Tsvangirayi was said to have failed to get a decisive win. In the run-up to the run-off election Zanu PF unleashed a wave of violence that resulted in the deaths of several hundred MDC supporters, and ultimately Tsvangirayi pulling out of the election.

The stalemate was mediated by Mbeki himself, who ushered in a negotiated GNU, with Mugabe as the ultimate leader.

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Anonymous · 4 months ago
Inkinga ka Thabo Mbeki yikuthandana noMgabe. He is not even mentioning the delayed results, because of the rigging. He is not mentioning the second run off violence by ZANU military. All because konke lokhu is about criticizing Mugabe and ZANU. Instead yena ugxeka i opposition.
Egypt Dzinemunenzva. · 4 months ago
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Tapiwa Mahachi · 4 months ago
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Dhadza · 4 months ago
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gt · 4 months ago
nonsense ndiye akapondera vana musaga uyo neku indoser rigged elections. why didn't he stop it then. how many people have been arrested nenyaya iyoyi nhai Mr president
Anonymous · 4 months ago
By so saying Mbeki is admitting that he is the cause of our problem. Nja..... Dog of war. Mbwa.
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Sunata · 4 months ago
So mbenki you mean to say the zim opposition was the one which carried out those public lynching of foreigners in South Africa.I think your moral reasoning has deteriorated and you should check yourself in a dementia nursing home and thats where you should stay and its long overdue.
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mnangagwa · 4 months ago
hooo nhai zvinoitwa nemasutudhenzi chete
cde · 4 months ago
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Mr JP van · 4 months ago
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coni · 4 months ago
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The real MC racher 🤪 · 4 months ago
I'm trying to get the core of this, but it's sweeps past, Are they saying kuti Alexandria was and is where the whole Xenophobiac attacks were brewed, what is it exactly
gg · 4 months ago
Mbuya cake vakashaya
wischigonero · 4 months ago
guyz zvanzi chiiko nabarak Obama pane pandaona pakanzi rest in peace Obama
mnangagwa · 4 months ago
waziona papi
Jah🇿🇼Tsvarie-07 · 4 months ago
Me did year new more sir ma South Africans Zimbabweans are suffering because of you...
??? · 4 months ago
Dai waisada kuti zviitwe you had all the power to stop xenophobia coz by then you were the president but just because you also hated ama Zim Zim you left your people killing and torturing our people so thula uthi zwi wena Mbeki ma.tu.zvi. aripahuro seemhashu maitiro ako unenge wakama.ma moyo ukasiya du.zvi muchifuva to hell with you Mbeki lo thu.vi
🏋️🕺⛹️ · 4 months ago
so says the man who saw no crisis in zim when in fact it was burning to hell with Thabo Mbeki
Mr JP van · 4 months ago
ndichakuvinga ikoko uri****i iwe thabo mbeki uyanyela amasimba wabulalisa izihlobo zethu sukhulumi i****hi uyanyela ngizokufaka isibhamu
Dhadza · 4 months ago
Kusvika parinhasi wanga urimurima.Zvakapfuura hazvo vakafa vakatofa zvikavharana.Vamwe vaitaura live kuti vanhu ngavadzingwe hapana asingazive kunzekwako iwewe.
Mr JP van · 4 months ago
ngavadzoke tinovada varivapenyu munyika yavene inovakwa nevene vayo nyika machina achimora vuchi nomukaka amana zvakawoma zvinoda jesu
Bonga Hwenje · 4 months ago
Dear Pindula kana news dzirikunetsa kuwana these days it's ok but hamungabvi mashayawo chero makuhwa tiudzeyi tumakwahi kwahi itoto chero nhema zvadzo boe kusvika news dzakubatika
· 4 months ago
kana uchida makihwa enda kuHerald, H-Metro neKwayedza.
Mr JP van · 4 months ago
ma south African makahwinei sezo makatumwa kuvuraya mazimbabwean ngozi chete ndidzo ndidzo dzichakutamudzai tabombeki aikutumai akagara zvake kumba kwake m****
🏃Chi baby Che Zanu🌊 · 4 months ago
truth be told this shameless clueless worthless useless footmate called thabo mbeki is lying this is rubbish stu.pid talk where were you all this time a lier just like your father the devil we don't believe in the talks of the enemy lucifer
Zeus mfana · 4 months ago
True indeed this fool is full of lies
cde razor wire · 4 months ago
hapana zvikutaurwa nambeki apo arikutaura zvake zvekugaro kwembudzi takarasikirwa nevanhu vakawandisa vachipiswa nematai mujoza umo
man · 4 months ago
Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 0 cameroon 🇨🇲 0 full time results
flying Doc ( 3Ds) · 4 months ago
Zim so we don't hv strikers .. we missed a lot of golden opportunities .. I think we shld borrow CR7, Halaand , Lewandoski or even young Yamal's boots .. we are missing attacking players in form of Vin jr with natural brilliance ...
jabu🚮 · 4 months ago
flying Doc@ washaya🚮
nyasha · 4 months ago
panzvimbo yekuti uti musona our former captain ngadzoke,woti toda ku hire ma strikers,look Vincent abobukar of Cameroon still kicking
@nyasha · 4 months ago
Abubakar haasati anyanya kukura ane 32 years
To be specific · 4 months ago
Thabo Mbeki is the trouble caused for Zims woes...
Z · 4 months ago
SO THE OPPOSITION ORGANIZED THE STRATEGY INORDER TO GAIN POLITICAL POWER- HMMMM THESE SELLOUTS WILL DO ANYTHING TO PLEASE THEIR MASTERS. ANYWHERE ZANUPF AS ALWAYS CAN WITHER ANY STORM.
Anonymous · 4 months ago
I agree. They should wither.
Ediots · 4 months ago
Thabo is useless 😒. He is a failure and deserved the inhouse coup.
𝕸𝖆𝖗𝖆𝖛𝖆𝖟𝖆 · 4 months ago
It doesn't make sense as the xenophobic attack affected mostly non-Zimbabweans, and only occurred in big cities.
CIO · 4 months ago
a spark wic leads to inhumane killings
Anonymous · 4 months ago
Mbeki you got it wrong. By 2008 it was difficulty to open bank accounts and majority of people kept money under the mattresses that's why it was more of robbery.
Dhadza · 4 months ago
Kana chirichokwadi chaunanacho America and Britain ngavaticompansate loss of business.
dzamudhara · 4 months ago
zim work 0 camr 0 half tym
expense · 4 months ago
thank you
Oncemore · 4 months ago
Thanks
Anonymous · 4 months ago
Tagara tozviziva izvo ende tagara tokuudzai kuti regime changers backed by western countries masquerading as opposition parties, Rights groups, NGOs etc are driving this in Zimbabwe. Manje makanyangira yaona. Hapamihwe minhwe unochohwachowa. ZANU PF forever bato revanhu veruzhinji rakaumbwa nevana vemuno. Pamberi ne ZANU PF....
Corruptmore Looto · 4 months ago
Unoti Dai vainyatsoda vaitadze kukubvisiya hr, musazvisimbise nenhema 😂😂. Vanotoitira isu tisingade Zanu because pakaitika zveIraq tozobatanidzirwa muChaos yacho kwete kuti makangwara kuvadarika
Chibaba · 4 months ago
ZANU PF is a gang of murderers, thieves, looters etc. The second republic removed thieves who were sorrounding Mugabe and replaced them with their own thieves 👉👉 Prisca Mupfumira, Wadyajena, Henrietta 6kgs Rushwaya, Chivhayo, Guvamatanga, Mike mbudzi Chimombe, Moses Mpofu, Chigumba, gold mafia
· 4 months ago
,@chibaba, wasiya Commander-in-Thief and his sidekick. Fatso Chivharo
Mr JP van · 4 months ago
pamberi bato rinotonga zvinemutsindo rakatsigira vatema kuti vazvitonge👊👊👊icho charira muzimbabwe
Oncemore · 4 months ago
Thabo Mbeki was the best president of SA.
· 4 months ago
Up yours 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻
𝑨𝒎𝒃𝒂𝒔𝒔𝒂𝒅𝒐𝒓 · 4 months ago
that statement that was said doesnt change anything at all the life's lost and drama unfolded can not be undone. Why bring something of no value to recovery now...
Mr JP van · 4 months ago
arikunyara kuti anoda kuzoripa vanhu vakavurawa nama SA vava kumukigwa nengozi ndodzavakuvanetsa taizviziva hedu kuti zvichpfuka chete muzimba haarovi
wischigonero · 4 months ago
zimbabwe iri kugona bhora hr taurai tinzwe
signor Kantage · 4 months ago
inogona bhora inenge yambotambira pai ine nhandare here iyoyi
Mr JP van · 4 months ago
ehee inogona kana vakapiwa Mari inokwana vanotambisa vakomana ivava
ndini mudaburi · 4 months ago
zim got in this current situation becz of mbeki he said therez no crisis in Zimbabwe ye the cauntrie was burning
Focus · 4 months ago
zimbabwe 0-3 cameroon 13mins kkk kwakayipa Zim
fonsokwembo · 4 months ago
ah chii manje ichochi
; · 4 months ago
ndokunyepa manje ikoku iwe hakuna zvakadaro
💙💙Blue 🔵cyclone 🌀🌀 · 4 months ago
zim o Cameron o
Oncemore · 4 months ago
Dangerous, give us a brief report of the game so far
ndururani · 4 months ago
itai muchitipawo update yema worriors zvedu isu
Biggie · 4 months ago
Yadii Zimbabwe nhasi
Biggie Big Biggest · 4 months ago
Tipeiwo maresults ebhora veduwe
fonsokwembo · 4 months ago
SABC yakuburitsa Namibia vs Kenya stil 0:0 dai vaburitsao redu nhy zvakaoma
Scz · 4 months ago
Mbeki what is your take as of today since you know the past? Don't be like a snake. Don't be good like, be democratic

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